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Showing posts with label NFL Draft 2011. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NFL Draft 2011. Show all posts

Monday, 20 February 2012

Evaluating the 2011 Dallas Cowboys Draft Class

Posted on 17:24 by Unknown
This week provides plenty of time to look at 2012 Draft prospects for the NFL as the Cowboys and the other 31 teams head back to Indianapolis for the Combine at the end of the week. Over the next few months, teams will build a board and begin to figure out how to populate their rosters with young, healthy bodies to move forward. Every team wants to "churn its roster", keeping things fresh and fostering a spirit of intense competition for each and every spot and snap.

One exercise worth getting to this week before we totally turn out the lights on 2011 is looking at the first group that new coach Jason Garrett brought in. Identifying his role in the "war room" and the personnel collection department with GM Jerry Jones and the normal staff in that regard is still difficult to completely nail down, however, he certainly has influence, and it is interesting to note that 2011 seemed to bring in a number of useable parts moving forward. If the Cowboys can find as many bodies in 2012 as they seemed to bring in in 2011, they will be doing a nice, quiet job of rebuilding this roster the cheap way - through college players.

The following is a look at the new bodies who have joined the Cowboys in the last year straight from college. The players included on this list are only those that had some level of roster impact in 2011. Therefore, developmental signings to take to camp next year are not included. Just 2011 draft picks and undrafted free agents that spent at least a little time on the roster.

First, let's review the 2011 Cowboys Draft, player by player:


Round 1, Pick 9 - Tyron Smith, Tackle, USC

About a year ago this month, Smith was identified as a player of great interest for the Dallas Cowboys. After examining a good portion of his 2010 season at USC and seeing all of his tools and abilities, it seemed like a cinch for the Cowboys to make him a cornerstone for their squad moving forward. He was very young, but he could be good right away and had a chance to be great in a few years. Well, after one season where he started by learning a lot of lessons at the hands of opposing pass rushers, we have already seen giant leaps from Smith. He is being heavily considered to switch to left tackle for the start of business in 2012, and then provided the Cowboys can continue to develop him, there is no reason that he cannot be elite at that vital position for a long, long time. Health and motivation will always be considerations for young tackles, but it sure looks like the Cowboys might have been able to do something wonderful here. There is no doubt that JJ Watt would have helped this squad at #9 (as I have written countless times), but there can be no second-guessing this pick at this spot. He appears to be as important an add to this roster as any player since DeMarcus Ware.

Round 2, Pick 40 - Bruce Carter, Linebacker, North Carolina

Unlike Smith, this Carter selection took me completely off guard. It did not seem a particular position of need and the player was 6 months from being healthy after a significant knee injury. Speculation suggested that if he was healthy, he would have been in the 1st Round, and that is what Dallas is banking on. His contributions in 2011 were rather small, with a special teams play or two that stood out (at Washington), but for the most part, he spent a year getting acclimated to his surroundings and getting his knee healthy. Clearly, with Keith Brooking and Bradie James exiting, a middle linebacker situation that has 2010 addition Sean Lee and 2011 addition Bruce Carter nailing down that spot for years to come can get people excited. However, there was very little about his 2011 season from a defensive standpoint that gave us any indication of what he is capable of at the NFL level. Wait and see is the proper approach for Carter, but with names of great substance on the board when this pick was made (Brooks Read, every safety, and many defensive line prospects) there is a fair number of us who wonder about this selection and did at moment it was made, too. 2012 will be gigantic for him to put that discussion to rest.

Round 3, Pick 71 - DeMarco Murray, Running Back, Oklahoma

Murray was another pick that caused stirring in the media room at Valley Ranch. The selection signaled the idea that the Cowboys felt that Felix Jones was not the #1 running back that they had hoped he would be when they invested so much in him on draft day 2008. Murray would compete for the #1 job as soon as he was ready, and that happened by early October. And for the next few months, it became rather obvious to any observer that Murray was ready for the NFL and for that job. He was fantastic for a big stretch of the year before the Giants game in Arlington where he broke his ankle and ended his year. Nobody knows how things might have been different if he had stayed healthy, and now heading into 2012, the idea that the Cowboys have running back squared away really allows the team to turn their attention to other spots after never really finding a true #1 for years. Murray appears to be another high-quality pick for the 2011 draft and has the potential to make this draft a success.

Round 4, Pick 110 - David Arkin, Guard, Missouri State

Anytime that a team takes a small college offensive lineman, you hope that they have some inside intelligence that tells you they have slipped one by the rest of the league. Then, that small school prospect never suits up one time all season and you get rather concerned that they got too cute and out-smarted themselves. Think about it, as bad as they were at guard last year, they never allowed Arkin to show his ability in public. This redshirt year may have brought him along in the weight room, but for now, I think caution is the best way to proceed with Arkin. He may still have a lot of the ability that they liked last April, and it should be noted that he would not be the first lineman to not play his rookie year and still turn out well, but we need to see some signs that this important pick has something. To not even get a snap from a 4th round pick is not a great start to a career. Stay tuned.

Round 5, Pick 143 - Josh Thomas, Cornerback, Buffalo

Clearly the worst pick of the draft, as Thomas did not make the team out of camp at a position of great need. Instead, they went with a retread, Frank Walker, and sent Thomas away. He was claimed by Carolina the next day, and plays with the Panthers to this day, although he was only active once in 2011. This pick hurts a lot when you consider the Cowboys needed a corner in Round 5 and passed over Richard Sherman from Stanford who went off the board a few picks later at the same position and had an outstanding rookie season in Seattle. If they had Sherman, there would be a completely different feel to the 2012 offseason in Dallas. Instead, their search for young corners continues.

Round 6, Pick 176 - Dwayne Harris, Wide Receiver, East Carolina

Harris had a very strong training camp and preseason and had many believing that he could win and hold down the #3 Wide Receiver role at times in August. However, things did not materialize and he ended up playing one offensive snap in 2011. Meanwhile, Laurent Robinson stepped right in and took over that position as Harris was back and forth from the practice squad to the roster. Whether Harris is simply another name in the media guide or a part of the future moving forward will depend on his development by August. His return game and his receiving ability from the slot seemed useful enough on the 6th Round spot, but so far, there has been very little to sink your teeth into here.

Round 7, Pick 220 - Shaun Chapas, Fullback, Georgia

It was clear the Cowboys were ready to find a true fullback after the tough 2010 for Chris Gronkowski and they took a 7th round shot on Chapas. At the time, they had no way of knowing they would find Tony Fiammetta in September and that brought a quick close to Chapas it seemed in 2011. However, because of Fiammetta's illness, Chapas did actually play in Arizona for 8 snaps and remains on the roster to this day. I do not see him passing Fiammetta moving forward, but he will get the offseason to show his usefulness in 2012.

Round 7, Pick 252 - Bill Nagy, Center, Wisconsin

Nagy was a bit of a surprise pick, too, given his lack of a locked down spot even at Wisconsin in 2010. But, the Cowboys made a bet on the system up there and may have hit on a guy who has versatility and can become either a swing back-up or throw his name into the mix and center moving forward. They had the poor idea of having Phil Costa and Nagy start from Week 1 at center and left guard and together it was a real mess. Neither player had the raw strength to hold up in the trenches so stacking them together was a target for defenses to attack. Nagy broke his leg in New England in the 5th game and ended his year. But, moving forward, there is reason to believe that he could have an impact if surrounded by reasonable players on the line. Might be a solid 7th round pick.

And 4 undrafted free agents who contributed:

Kevin Kowalski, Center/Guard, Toledo

Kowalski is another of the raw young offensive line that could go either way. Like Costa, Nagy, and Arkin, he appears to have strength issues that need to be fixed, but he is another body that has age on his side. If you are going to stock an offensive line with backups, make them young enough that you might even find a starter in the group at some point. Opportunity is certainly knocking for this group. Kowalski played over 100 snaps and will have an idea what he needs to do to get better.

Dan Bailey, Kicker, Oklahoma State

Here is one of the major plus marks of the offseason, when the Cowboys found their kicker. Bailey was outstanding all year long and seemed to bring the kicking carousel to a stop. Whether he can be consistent as a kickoff man remains to be seen, but as far as accuracy as a kicker, the Cowboys did themselves a big favor after dealing with David Buehler for a few seasons of frustration. This is a key pickup.

Alex Albright, Linebacker, Boston College

A player in the mix to be another edge rusher in the 3-4, Albright played enough special teams to make himself useful. Down the depth chart from Victor Butler, Albright seemed capable in his role, and now will need to earn his stripes to move up the board, but I know he has his fans inside Valley Ranch.

Phillip Tanner, Running Back, Middle Tennessee State

Called into emergency duty for a while because of injuries and depth issues, Tanner also demonstrated that he can play at the NFL level as a special teams/depth guy if he keeps working. Whether he can be a candidate to be a legitimate backup running back remains to be seen, but if he had stayed healthy late in the season, it would have been interesting how many chances he would have received that ended up going to Sammy Morris.

11 names that still remain on the roster were found last spring and summer and added to this Cowboys roster. Smith and Murray appear to be clear starters and maybe stars, with Carter as a prospect to start as well. Beyond that, it may be a number of bottom of the roster depth-guys who get switched out for new players this year, but several of them have a chance to push their way further up the depth chart if they can emerge. That includes the offensive line group, where the Cowboys are using a numbers approach - collecting many bodies in hopes of finding a keeper or two.

Overall, I think the 2011 group has a chance to put the 2009 and 2010 groups to shame. In the case of 2009, that doesn't say too much, but the scouts, Garrett, and his staff did an under-rated job of finding players who could make this roster in 2011. Time to continue the job this spring in big numbers, as much more talent is needed in short order.
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Wednesday, 4 May 2011

Email Bag: Bruce Carter to SS?

Posted on 13:07 by Unknown
For today's email, I am using just this one from John. But, I have received a very similar email from about a dozen readers/listeners. Here it is:


What about having Bruce Carter shave ten pounds to play strong safety? Tall, fast, great jumping ability. He would be a ballhawk!


This is a rather familiar premise going back to the Roy Williams era. When Roy was a safety here with tight hips and poor cover skills, but wonderful hitting and solid play in tight spaces near the line of scrimmage, the popular idea among fans was to convert him to LB. Further, Bill Parcells didn't help things when he would describe Roy as "a biscuit away from being a LB".

The trouble is that moving up the size ladder is sometimes possible. But, moving down the ladder is very rare.

Imagine a ladder with the lightest players at the bottom and the heaviest players at the top. You never see a FB moving down to be a RB, or a Safety moving down to CB. But, when a Corner gets too big, we move him to Safety. When a WR gets too big, we move him to TE. I am not sure I recall a TE who moved out to WR. Speed kills in football and a fast TE is still a very slow WR.

And a fast LB would be a very slow Safety. It cannot be measured in straight ahead speed all of the time. Sometimes, their 40-time will be very similar, but then we get to stop and start, hip tightness that does not allow for change of direction, lateral and backwards speed, and so on.

Let's look at the size of Inside LBs Dallas has in the 3-4 defense. Keep in mind that the 40-time will be from their NFL Combine before their respective drafts (no, Keith Brooking is not able to run sub-4.6 anymore):

PlayerHeightWeight40 Time
Bradie James6'22454.76
Keith Brooking6'22424.58
Sean Lee6'22424.78
Leon Williams6'32454.56
Bruce Carter6'22414.50

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As you can see, Carter is fast, but not so fast that you see him out of the realm of his contemporaries. In fact, OurLads.com has him at 4.6 and because he did not run at his combine, there are many different 40-times floating around for Carter. Trying to decipher what is true and what is legend (one site suggest he was in the 4.4's) is not always easy - especially when a player is coming off ACL surgery. A source with the Cowboys believes that 4.55 is a fair number.

So, could he play safety?

Here are 5 random "Strong Safeties". Some are thought of as premier, some are SS that the Cowboys have tried and have not enjoyed success. And then there is Atogwe, who I thought the Cowboys should have targeted back in February - but ultimately signed with Washington.

PlayerHeightWeight40 Time
Roy Williams 6'02224.49
Troy Polamalu5'102064.40
Charles Woodson6'12024.45
Gerald Sensabaugh6'02124.48
OJ Atogwe5'112194.58

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Surely, everyone can see the size and speed of these players. To the naked eye, LB and SS may not seem that far apart. And they have many of the same responsibilities but in the NFL, those similarities are not redundant enough to think you can ask a LB to shed a few pounds and suddenly have the lateral and backward quickness these players need.

And, remember, don't get caught up in 40 speed. You see the claim that Roy Williams could break 4.5 in the 40. But remember how tight his hips were? He could not turn and run at all - even with Tight Ends near the end of his stay here. A LB covering downfield is a disaster compared to a DB. The best downfield LB for cover skills might be Brian Urlacher in that Tampa-2. But, would you rather have him then a safety? No way.

Darren Woodson is one who inspires many Cowboys fans to look in this direction. He was 6'1, 219, and his 40 was around a 4.40 or so, although records back then are hard to find. He seems more the exception than the rule, here.

Also, in the NFL in 2011, the FS and SS are mostly interchangeable in that with 2-deep looks, a team wants to be able to ask both to do each-others' job. So, are you ready to have Bruce Carter play CF against Aaron Rodgers? Of course, not.

I see where you are going, and the Cowboys think they have a superb athlete in Carter, but a superb LB is a tight hipped, tough-to-turn Safety in the NFL that opposing QBs would attempt to attack.
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Monday, 2 May 2011

New Rafael Vela Chat

Posted on 08:09 by Unknown
Rafael Vela:So, what's on your draft-addled mind this morning?

Bob Sturm: Thanks for the time this morning. Plenty to discuss since we last talked. Well, initial thoughts on the events of the NFL Draft, as it pertains to the Cowboys, of course


Rafael Vela: Like the front and the back. I'm thinking over day two, which gave a lot of people some indigestion, judging from comments, and post-draft grades.

Bob Sturm: Yes. I feel quite similar to that assessment. It sure seems that I would label Day 2 as pretty much "paying for previous sins".

Rafael Vela:: Where do you want to begin there?

Bob Sturm: Bruce Carter. Quite possibly a wonderful player - although the tape I see is rather mixed. But, I would have a much more open mind if this pick wasn't also made in 2005, 2006, 2009, and 2010. Inside nickel cover linebacker with sideline to sideline capabilities.

Rafael Vela: They're projecting him as a 3-down player to have taken him so high. The question for me is their thinking process in projecting him inside.

Bob Sturm: There is no way this franchise should have spent a 1st, 3 2nd's and a 3rd on this low priority spot in 7 drafts. And have fewer than 5 starts so far between all 5 players!

Rafael Vela: Carpenter, the less said the better. Jason Williams? The same. Lee and Carter will have to answer. I think the question about Bruce Carter, as you've said, comes down to the non-production of the Parcells and Wade era ILBs. I was looking up Kevin Burnett last night. The charge in Dallas was he was too light, played at 228 his last year here. He's listing at 240 in San Diego and he produced for them. Two solid years, had six sacks last year. that would have put him what, 2nd on the Cowboys?

Rafael Vela: I don't have a problem with going after a spot if you feel you have to fill it and the picks you've made have not panned out. Trying again is better than denying the first pick or picks were busts. I do wish they could hit, however. Well, Carpenter was drafted to play Anthony Spencer's role, They kicked him inside because he couldn't do it.

Bob Sturm: Yes. I just find it dubious when people suggest Lee and Carter could be running the middle together for the next decade. With Burnett and Carpenter reaching the age of their prime, I realize that there are no sure things in the NFL. But, I suppose previous failures should not scare you off a 3-down player. If he is what they say he is, then the Cowboys will be pleased. How about the ACL. Bothered that a speed LB is coming off a knee injury?

Rafael Vela: I think the drafting players injured is what has people going nuts more than anything. Burnett, Lee and Carter all rehabbing. ACL's don't bother me. People do recover from them. It's the time-table. This is a 2nd round pick. Will he be able to play this year, or will he miss all of camp trying to work that joint back up to strength and then become Sean Lee, a guy trying to catch up all year?

Bob Sturm: Wow, I forgot that about Carpenter. They actually thought he could be an edge rusher in a 3-4? He is 27 years old. Jason Williams in 25. There is why we have so many holes around here. That should be the backbone of your roster. 24-28 year olds, that is.

Rafael Vela: In their best dreams, I think Dallas sees Carter in this year's nickel, and then stepping in for James next year. Can he at least deliver that nickel part. That's important, because as crazy as it seems, you know they missed Carpenter in the nickel last year, cause they cut him without having a replacement on board. Watching Brooking and James playing every down was painful, and one of many reasons that defense fell apart.

Bob Sturm: What is Lee's role this year under that premise?

Rafael Vela: I think Lee is expected to be the starter this year, putting Brooking into a rotation. or less, for him. But we can't go off Wade's blueprints any more. It's Rob Ryan's show.

Bob Sturm: I sure hope that happens. That would make me feel much better about this investment. The declarations that Brooking is on the roster this weekend seemed a bit premature, but they are going to do what they want to do.

Rafael Vela: Let's see what he can do. I've heard really good things about Rob's linebackers coach. They got more from less in Cleveland. Old Scott Fujita did really well for them. Whatever we say about them, these are better linebackers, across the board, than Ryan and Matt Eberflus had there.

Bob Sturm: OK. Let's visit about the RB situation. Other than the national media, everybody knew Barber was gone regardless of selecting a RB in the 3rd Round. What does DeMarco Murray tell us about Felix and Choice?

Rafael Vela: Murray suggest to me that Jason Garrett wasn't fully comfortable with either of them. Let's look at this ''three headed monster.'' ( You have no idea how much I hated that term) Barber kept getting lower body injuries, and playing lead blocker for himself aged him in dog years -- every season was like seven for you and me.
People were calling for Choice last year, and Garrett kept running Barber out there. The reason? I think it was because Garrett could trust Barber to block for Romo. Early on, I saw Tashard whiffing or using some, low-level-blocking-enthusiam, shall we say, and Romo took some belts as a result. When you're in your third year and calling for more time, that's not gonna help your case. Felix was finally healthy, but was he the same shifty Felix? Who could you trust? Who can you trust in 2011 if you're Jason Garrett?


Rafael Vela: I think DeMarco Murray will start on day one of camp with a chance to seize this job. I don't automatically pencil him in as the number 3. Felix and Tashard have not earned automatic rotation roles. That's why I think Dallas took a back so high. You and I talked about the line making the backs look bad. I think Murray's pick suggests the team thinks it was the line AND the backs.

Bob Sturm: At the heart of any Tashard Choice discussion is clearly the thread of "do the coaches think he is 25% as good as some fans seems to"?

Rafael Vela: Some fans think Choice would be Superman in cleats, but that's the way it is when you're the backup. They treated Barber the same way when he backed up Julius Jones. And they turned on him in a hurry the second he got injured. They'll turn on Tashard just as fast if Murray rips off some big runs in his first preseason games. That's just the way it goes.

Bob Sturm: My thinking on that pick was what it told us about Choice's skill set. Let's talk about Murray's durability issues as well. I get very concerned when my big Sooner buddies were shocked at this pick. I like his skills, but anyone has to see diminishing explosiveness as his career in Norman went on.

Rafael Vela: I didn't follow OU so I can't really say. He missed what, five games his entire college career? He's not going to be an 18 carry, 24 touch guy in Dallas. No back will get that load. But somebody is going to get the lead -- 14-15 carries and 4-5 passes a game. I think he's in the mix. 24 touch a game, I should have said.

Bob Sturm:Yes, he played through a lot. Didn't miss games as much as he tried to play hurt and saw his productivity really suffer. Seems like a pick that could really fly, but I keep coming back to Felix/Mendenhall etc. I have a lot of baggage from drafts gone by that I need to work through.

Rafael Vela: You need a short memory. Look Jeff Fisher took three backs in the 1st or 2nd round, trying to get his lead back. He didn't like what he had, then hit with Chris Johnson, who was his 4th crack at it. I you think it's important, you keep trying until you get it right.

Bob Sturm: That is all well and good - and Carter and Murray have tremendous upside (draft cliche). But if I am going to do that, Mr Vela, I have to accept that Olshansky and Bowen are still my defensive ends; Ball and Sensabaugh are still my safeties. etc... And that means that I have to either sign a lot of free agents or I am in a world of hurt.

Rafael Vela: No, I don't think so, at least on the safeties. I think you will see Olshansky and Bowen at DE, but they said it a few times during the press conference, they have players they like in free agency, regardless of the system. And we all know this was an awful draft for safeties. I'm glad they didn't push one, or be like Denver and push two. They did go after a late 1st round DE, from all indications and Cam Jordan seems like the guy. We don't know what they were offering or how close they came. I guess the questions are, what DE could they have gotten in the 2nd. I broke down their 2010 draft board, cause they were kind enough to expose it the cameras last year, and they had Sean Lee and Navarro Bowman in their top 20. Going off their templates, I'm going to guess Bruce Carter was in their top 20-24 rated players. Once they decided to go Tyron Smith in the 1st and could not pull off a DE move up, they're out of the sweepstakes, as Garrett said, cause they were gonna go off their board and I'm pretty sure there was no D-lineman left in the 2nd close to Carter in their eyes. We might not like how they grade players, but they have to follow their board.

Bob Sturm: Ok. So, were you amazed at Murray over Rackley? Or does that sit ok with you?

Rafael Vela: I'm okay because they took David Arkin in the 4th. Look Rackley is a small-school guy. He wasn't going to be a starter this year. He's about 6-7 lbs. heavier than Arkin but either one of them is wearing the red shirt. Ask yourself this -- if Dallas had taken Rackley in the 3rd and gotten Murray in the 4th, would they be any closer to having a rookie starting guard then doing what they did? I don't think so.

Bob Sturm: Perhaps. I guess I talked to a scout or two that thought Rackley was closer to plug and play. I won't pretend to have any idea what Arkin is capable of until we get to camp. But, I have earmarked Jacksonville to keep an eye on the Lehigh kid.

Rafael Vela: Okay, I've seen neither, so I'm going to wait and see. I'll say this, Arkin looks athletic.

Bob Sturm: OK. Let's spend some time on Day 3. I want to direct some people to your story from this morning at your site. http://www.cowboysnation.com/2011/05/short-terms-results-will-determine-long.html But, let's spitball about guys we likely know very little about. Impressions of Day 3?

Rafael Vela: Jason Garrett made a very telling comment in that presser Saturday. He said he wants a physical team and a tenacious one, But he stressed that you have to be athletic, because you can't be dominant without it. I took this as a shot at the big, flabby sluggos who wore down in December and January each of the last few years. Here's shorthand -- the O-line in the Giants playoff loss in '08. You know what I'm talking about. A 20 play drive to end the 2nd quarter and nothing in the 2nd half. He's making a point about conditioning and player types. Seeing that Arkin is a radically different body type than Robert Brewster, or Montrae Holland, tells me to give him a chance.

Bob Sturm: Amen to that. Don't get me started on taking Brewster in the 3rd Round with that body!

Rafael Vela: Day 3 looks pretty good, on first glance. They hit need positions -- two interior O-linemen, a cornerback with some upside, a receiver and a fullback who looks like he could be the starter this year.

Bob Sturm: I feel like you are a fan of what Dwayne Harris may bring to the party....

Rafael Vela: He's a central casting Cowboys receiver -- 6'1'', 205. He's a physical and productive guy. He doesn't sound like he'll be a superstat, because he's not a burner, but he reads like a young Patrick Crayton. And speaking of guys the Cowboys missed in 2010, they missed him.

Bob Sturm: Underneath slot guys are a big need here. Especially if we are losing faith in the Ogletree project.

Rafael Vela: They made a lot of budgetary cuts last year, trading Crayton, flipping Carpenter out and got nothing in return. Ogletree and Hurd did little as the slot guys, they had not nickel LB to replace Carp, and let's not touch Alex Barron, okay?

Rafael Vela: And that cost them games. John Phillips torn knee left them with no FB, so they rolled the dice on a UFA and Chris Gronkowski played like one. Worked his butt off, but he got Tony Romo on IR.

Bob Sturm: They seem to realize that reserves either need to play on your special teams (a lot) or they better be pretty special. And that is the issue with RB/WR right now in many respects. It is not easy to fill these spots. 45 man roster; 4 or 5 specialists. That leaves about 40. Take your starters and sluggos off the list and that leaves about 16 or 18 guys to fill all 4 special teams and fill out your reserves. I love doing the math of how you assemble a game day roster in the NFL. So much to worry about. Even before in-game injuries.

Rafael Vela: Right. The way I see it, they drafted a new backfield, a starting RT and two Gs. The guards are ''in-the-pipeline'' guys but I think they're looking for Arkin to give them something next year. A lot of people would be happier if they took the guard in the 2nd or 3rd, but they did address it.

Rafael Vela: Yep. And one of the biggest mistakes they made last year was clearing out the core of their special teams. Now, a lot of those guys did nothing BUT special teams, the Pat Watkins types, but they did give value. People hate hearing it, but I think these guys are being looked at as teams players in addition to situational play. I'm thinking of Josh Thomas, Harris and Chapas here.

Bob Sturm: Fullback has proven to be a lot more difficult to fill than you would think. It seems like a minimal role in this offense, but Deon to Gronkowski to Chapas tells us they are still trying to get it right. But, if it is an indicator that Garrett wants to run some "21" and "22" personnel and establish a physical tone, then let's do it.

Rafael Vela: It goes beyond the ''true'' fullback. They've been trying to get a quality lead blocker. Add Fasano, Hoyte and Polite to that list. I've seen an Ernie Zampese playbook, and what amazed me was the number of *passing plays* the fullback factors in. I think this is why they've been trying to convert tight ends into F-backs, who can lead block and run routes. The Polites, Hoytes and Deon Andersons offered nothing as receiving threats. They were playing 10-on-11 whenever they tried throwing with those guys on the field. Having a true fullback, in the Moose Johnston mold, is a huge get. I don't know if Chapas can fill the role, but he's a major addition if he can. John Phillips has the game, and Chapas gives them two guys who can fill the Moose shoes.

Bob Sturm: What a crazy scene now with all of the undrafted free agents in limbo. Do they get jobs? Do they hang out? I feel for those guys. And there are some notable names in that group that now might have to wait months before they know if they are NFL players or not. And even then they might just have a short camp to show their wares...

Rafael Vela: You know the Cowboys have guys they like. There are some interesting guys who went undrafted. I've seen that the teams can't have contact with these guys, but I find it hard to believe that the agents are not getting some types of hints if a team like their client or clients.

Bob Sturm: Let's stop here until next time. Well played, sir. Check out Rafael's stuff at www.cowboysnation.com - fresh stuff all of the time.

Rafael Vela: As always, Bob, thanks. Let's do this again soon.
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Day 3 Selections For Cowboys

Posted on 07:06 by Unknown
The Cowboys continued to fill in some gaps on their roster over the weekend in Rounds 4-7 of the NFL Draft, and despite not knowing too much about any of these players, we should readily admit that the Cowboys have found some very nice players at this portion of the draft in the recent past.

In 2004, the Cowboys snagged Patrick Crayton at Pick #216 in the 7th Round. In 2005, Jay Ratliff was Pick #224 in Round 7. In 2007, Doug Free was Pick #122 of Round 4, Deon Anderson was Pick #195 of Round 6, and Alan Ball was Pick #237 of the 7th Round.

Then, in 2008, Tashard Choice was pick #122 of Round 4 and Orlando Scandrick was pick #143 of Round 5. And in 2009, John Phillips was Pick #208 of Round 6.

At the very minimum, all of these players were useful contributors at one point or another, and most of them were players almost none of us had ever heard of going into the draft.

This is the nature of the talent collection business in the NFL. Everyone has an opinion on Days 1-2 of the draft, but by Day 3, attention spans shorten and fans find something else to do.

But for NFL teams, this is how the roster is fortified. You must find useful contributors here - not necessarily to start at first, but to show the ability to take the field in special teams and as a specialty substitute and help the cause. 45 man rosters on game day do not allow for passengers. Every player must serve a purpose.

Day 3 Additions:

Round 4, Pick 13 (110) David Arkin OL 6'5" 300 Missouri St.

Round 5, Pick 12 (143) Josh Thomas DB 5'10" 191 Buffalo

Round 6, Pick 11 (176) Dwayne Harris WR 5'10" 203 East Carolina

Round 7, Pick 17 (220) Shaun Chapas RB 6'2" 247 Georgia

Round 7, Pick 49 (252) Bill Nagy C 6'2" 302 Wisconsin

Given my complete lack of familiarity with players this deep in the draft, I defer to the people I trust at OurLads.Com for their insight on every player but Nagy, who doesn't appear to have made the cut of the hundreds of players they profiled. They rated 10 players from Wisconsin, and he wasn't one of them. I will try not to read too much meaning into that.

David Arkin - 6047 - 302 - 5.34 (40)

Four-year starter who is a high effort player that is strong at the point of attack. Two-time team captain. Competitive in his play. Plays on his feet. Was rusty early in the Shrine practices, but got better every day and played solid in the game. Pancaked Brandon Bair. Pulls and blocks on the run effectively. Long arms and big hands for the position. Works to finish and sustain his blocks. A natural guard for a run zone blocking team. Physical and intense in his play. Mentally tough to focus on his job. Can make mental adjustments on the move. Has the talent and natural ability to earn a roster position. He just needs the technique work and to elevate his pro physical skills. BP 25 reps. Fourth/Fifth Round


I suppose this tells us that as much as we think they liked Lehigh's Will Rackley, they must have thought Arkin was not far below him in their grading. They choose DeMarco Murray when Rackley was on the board, but then came right back in Round 4 and grabbed Arkin. Obviously, Missouri State gives many people pause, and so does the Cowboys reputation for finding OL players in the draft (Doug Free is a rare exception this decade), but there seems to be a quiet confidence that he will be able to work his way up the ladder at guard very quickly.


Josh Thomas - 5102 - 191 - 4.50 (40)

Four-year starter who majors in zone coverage. Quick and balanced with good agility. Good change of direction. Hip tightness that was evidenced in the East/West Shrine practices was not as pronounced at the combine. Looked smoother in his turns. Flashes short area cover skills. Better as a press corner in a cover-2 scheme. Struggles in off-man coverage. Loses the ball when covering deep. Competitive with good leaping ability. Will need to turn his game up a notch to play on Sundays. Vertical Jump: 38.5 Fourth/Fifth Round.


Another corner for the Cowboys to add to the ranks which is always a position of need. I do wonder about another "small corner" and one who is not thought to be very good in "off-man" which was really used heavily under Wade Phillips. I would like to think Rob Ryan is bringing in more of his press-coverage looks and perhaps Thomas can work his way into the mix. It is worth noting that this was the exact (pick #143) of Orlando Scandrick, so that is where the bar is for Thomas.


Dwayne Harris - 5097 - 200 - 4.55 (40)

Started 24 games. Conference USA MVP. Former quarterback. Average speed for a wide receiver. Ultra productive in his career with 268 catches. Still learning how to play the position. Not a big target. A slot type receiver. Plays "X" split end or in the slot. Used as a Wildcat quarterback. Good contact balance on the run after catch. Ball security is a problem with four fumbles in 2010. Needs work in route running. Rough week of practice at the Senior Bowl. Struggled to adjust to passes from a new quarterback. His hands were as inconsistent as his route running. Has injury history. His left foot broken twice. Vertical Jump: 34. Sixth/Seventh Round.


This of course is the spot in the draft where you start to consider a player because he can really contribute on special teams. And he does seem to possess ability as a return man, but it appears the Cowboys should have plenty of options for returning kicks - and with the new rules, that seems to be a minimized priority, anyway. However, with Harris, you cannot help but see how he was used underneath in East Carolina's offense as perhaps an indicator that the Cowboys would like him to challenge Kevin Ogletree as a slot WR option. Since Crayton's exit, the Cowboys have not really had an ideal fit for the slot/underneath game, and this should be a big part of any team's offense when they have Wide Receivers like Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, and Jason Witten that attract the safeties.


Shaun Chapas - 6021 - 247 - 4.91 (40)

Three-year starter. A West Coast offense type fullback who is a blocker first. A willing and productive blocker who can seal the edge. Good vision, feet, and functional strength to block in pass protection. An I-formation fullback who knows how to check and release to get into pass routes. Can catch all the flat and check down type passes. Ties up the linebacker on inside blitzes. Plays H-back where he can get a running start at the target. Can adjust on the run. Strong enough to run a defensive end up the field. Made a good wrap up tackle on an interception. Out of control at times. Plays on special teams and returns kickoffs. Bench Press: 23 reps. Sixth/Seventh Round.


Unless Jason Garrett has really changed his ways, this is a purely special teams choice. Fullback is a very underutilized element of his offense that would not warrant a pick in this draft unless they are already looking to replace Chris Gronkowski. But, even then, John Phillips' return gave them some versatility options there. I suppose this will be a battle in training camp to see if Chapas can make the team by showing he is worthy of playing on the units. I can promise you I did not anticipate a FB being taken in this draft.

And, with Wisconsin C/G Bill Nagy, there is very little to report from Ourlads. Actually, there is nothing. So, the Cowboys found someone late in the draft that they think nobody else sees. That is not an unreasonable premise, so we await the end of the lockout to see if they are right. This team does need OL depth.

I will try to post some video that I can find on these 5 players soon.
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